Lord Justice Munby Refuses To Answer Questions

Sir James Munby confronted by Fathers rights activists 20/07/15

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Top judge says family courts are ‘neither compassionate nor even humane’

A couple who have struggled to get legal aid while fighting to stop their three-year-old son being Sir James Munby, president of the Family Division of the High Court, said the public had a right to know “what is being done in their name” and called for the courts to adapt to the internet eraadopted could be forgiven for thinking that they are “trapped” in a system which is “neither compassionate nor even humane”, the most senior family court judge in England and Wales has said. Read more, click here

Guidance from the President’s Office – McKenzie Friends

Where proceedings are held in open court, it is clear from the principles set out in Court of Appeal decisions (1) that a litigant who is not legally represented has the right to have reasonable assistance from a layperson, sometimes called a McKenzie Friend (“MF”).

• A litigant in person wishing to have the help of a MF should be allowed to do so unless the judge is satisfied that fairness and the interests of justice do not so require. The presumption in favour of permitting a MF is a strong one. (2)

• A litigant in person should inform the court at the outset of a hearing that he intends to exercise his right to a MF. He should also indicate who his MF will be. (3)

• The court may refuse to allow a MF to act or continue to act in that capacity where the judge forms the view that the assistance he has given, or may give, impedes the efficient administration of justice. However, the court should also consider whether a firm and unequivocal warning to the litigant and/or MF might suffice in the first instance.(4)

• If a judge decides in the exercise of his or her discretion to refuse to allow a MF to assist the litigant in person he should give the litigant reasons for his refusal. The litigant may appeal that refusal, but the MF has no standing to appeal such a refusal.(5)

What a McKenzie Friend May Do (6)

  • Provide moral support for the litigant
  • Take notes
  • Help with case papers
  • Quietly give advice on:
    – points of law or procedure;
    – issues that the litigant may wish to raise in court;
    – questions the litigant may wish to ask witnesses.

What a McKenzie Friend May Not Do
• A MF has no right to act on behalf of a litigant in person. It is the right of the litigant to use the assistance of a MF if he so requires.(7)

• A MF is not entitled to address the court, nor examine any witnesses. If he does so he becomes an advocate and requires the grant of a right of audience.(8)

• A MF may not attend a closed court unless the litigant has received permission from the court for the MF to do so at the start of a hearing.(9)

• A MF may not act as the agent of the litigant in relation to the proceedings nor manage the litigant’s case outside of court, for example, by signing court documents.

Rights of Audience
• Sections 27 & 28 of the Courts and Legal Services Act 1990 govern exhaustively rights of audience and the right to conduct litigation. They provide the court with a discretionary power to grant lay individuals such rights.

• A court may grant an unqualified person a right of audience in exceptional circumstances only and only after careful consideration.(10)The litigant must apply at the outset of a hearing if he wishes the MF to be granted a right of audience or the right to conduct the litigation.(11)

Personal Support Unit & Citizens’ Advice Bureau
• Litigants in person should also be aware of the services provided by local Personal Support Units and Citizens’ Advice Bureaux. The PSU at the Royal Courts of Justice in London can be contacted on 020 7947 7701, by email at cbps@bello.co.uk or at the enquiry desk. The CAB at the Royal Courts of Justice in London can be contacted on 020 7947 6880 or at the enquiry desk.


1 McKenzie v McKenzie [1970] 3 All ER 1034, R v Leicester City Justices ex parte Barrow & ors [1991] 3 All ER 935, R v Bow County Court, ex parte Pelling [1999] 4 All ER 751. See also Collier v Hicks (1831) 2 B & Ad 669.
2 Re H (Minors)(Chambers Proceedings: McKenzie Friend) [1997] 3 FCR 618 (CA),
3 Ex Parte Barrow
4 Ex parte Barrow.
5 Ex parte Pelling.6 McKenzie v McKenzie
7 Ex parte Barrow, ex parte Pelling.
8 See “Rights of Audience” below.
9 Re G (A Minor) (Chambers Hearing: Assistance) (1991) Note [1999] 1 WLR 1828, Re H (Minors)(Chambers Proceedings: McKenzie Friend) [1997] 3 FCR 618 (CA), ex parte Pelling. 10 D v S (Rights of Audience) [1997] 1 F.L.R. 724 (CA), Milne v Kennedy & Others (11 February 1999) (TLR) (CA). Paragon Finance PLC v Noueiri (Practice Note) [2001] 1 WLR 2357 (CA).
11 Clarkson v Gilbert [2000] 2 FLR 839 (CA).

Source: Her Majesty’s Court Service Website 15 July 2005

In N (A Child) [2008] EWHC 2042 (Fam). It was concluded that the views set out in Clarkson v Gilbert apply so that i) there is no right of audience as such for McKenzie Friends; ii) the judge has a wide discretion to allow a McKenzie Friend rights of audience and iii) the circumstances in allowing rights of audience do not have to be exceptional. He added that “the grant of rights of audience to a McKenzie friend will, to adopt the President’s words, be of advantage to the court in ensuring the litigant in person receives a fair hearing. Sometimes, indeed, it will be essential if justice is to be done and, equally importantly, perceived by the litigant in person as having been done.”


The one thing that those who operate in secret and behind closed doors fear, is exposure. You continue to operate in secrecy so that you cannot come under scrutiny, you don’t want to be scrutinised because you know that what you are doing is wrong. If you are conducting yourself in an open and honest way, then you have nothing to hide and nothing to fear.

The judges, social workers, guardians, solicitors and barristers in the family courts who collude together to remove children from loving parents are the ones who have everything to hide and fear. If any or all of them came under scrutiny from outside, their practise would be called into question and they would be asked to account for their actions and themselves.

Most cases put before a family court, would never hold up in a court of law. Those professionals who are their to advocate for the parents are in collusion with the social services. They fail in their duty of care when they advise the parents, to ‘just go along with them’. They employ barristers who turn up on the day of a hearing and don’t even know the details of a case, having not taken the time to read the file. They also poorly advise parents, so that they proceedings can be concluded as quickly as possible.

While they are allowed to continue in secret they can remain unaccountable to anyone and continue the awful practise of removing children. Morally they need to question what they are doing, one might guess that some of these people have children of their own. To be able to continue doing what you are doing, you will void of any conscience or empathy.

Secret Family Courts

The family court are civil courts and are held behind closed doors. The justification for this, is to protect the names of the children involved. Protect the names of the children by all means and protect children, but when there is no reporting allowed and parents gagged and threatened if they speak out falls outside of the realms of confidentiality and protecting the children.

What are the courts so afraid of? They are afraid that the whole scam would be exposed and cases that have come before them would never have stood up in a court of law. In a court of law, you are tried before a judge and jury of your peers and only convicted by a majority and beyond reasonable doubt.

In a family court, they work on the basis of probability, which only needs to be 51% that you probably did it. The odds are stacked against you as soon as you step into a family court. If you have a solicitor from the social services panel, they will wrongly advise you to, ‘go along with the SS, don’t rock the boat’. What piss poor advice this is.

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